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Author: | Colin North [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Neck dents help.... |
Got a new guitar I made come back after 3 weeks with 6/7 small dents half way along the back of the neck where it's been bumped against something. He says they've been there since he got it back home, and I'm not going to argue whether they were there when he picked it up or not (I don't remember seeing any when I was doing final setup just before pickup, and he's fitted new tuners and a K & K since) Finish is Enduro-Var (several good layers), well cured, and the dents are very shallow and small, but you can feel and see them. I think the neck (bolt on) has to come off for finish removal, steaming the dents (mahogany) out as much as possible, complete sanding and more or less a complete re-spray before refitting. Anyone got any better/different suggestions or helpful advice? |
Author: | Hesh [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
Hey Colin, sorry to hear about the glue withdrawal..... Kidding of course. I have a hunch that steaming with a wet rag against a dent and the flat paddle that comes with some Weller soldering guns might swell small dents through the varnish. I've done this with success if the dents are shallow. It's place the hot paddle against the rag, wet on the dent, count a few seconds, remove the heat and repeat half a dozen times or so with waiting a minute in between sessions to let some swelling happen. Since your plan is to remove the neck and refinish anyway what do you have to lose? Good luck with the withdrawal, I plan of sleeping better tonight too. |
Author: | Colin North [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
May give it a try Hesh, as you say, nothing to lose. Itl be a bottle cap or spatula, rag and soldering iron if I do, no weller gun/paddle. Hope you sleep better tonight, sweet dreams! |
Author: | Haans [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:35 pm ] |
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Guy married? |
Author: | Colin North [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:18 pm ] |
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Yup |
Author: | Haans [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:27 am ] |
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Wedding rings are cruel to necks... |
Author: | Colin North [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:10 am ] |
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Author: | gxs [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
Haans wrote: Wedding rings are cruel to necks... Haans. I had a Kalamazoo with the finish all chipped on the rim below the neck joint, no other place. I could not figure out what caused it until I was playing, and slid up the neck and - BANG, hit it with my wedding ring. It happens Thanks.GS Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk |
Author: | Colin North [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
So the bad (and good) news is that cured Enduro Var seems completely impermeable to steam. |
Author: | Alex Kleon [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
Use a push pin to break the finish in the dents, and add drops of water. It might swell on it's own, or might need some heat. Any way you do it, there's going to be a bit of finish repair needed. Alex |
Author: | Colin North [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
Alex, thanks for the suggestion, but I'm sure cured Enduro Var will show witness lines, especially a satin finish - no chance of buffing them out, even if gloss might. Neck's off and it will get a strip and refinish |
Author: | Alex Kleon [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
I've used EnduroVar for 5-6 kitchens, so far. I'll give it a try for guitar finish if I can get a break from cabinetry this winter. I'll be picking your brain for satin spraying, Colin! Alex |
Author: | Colin North [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck dents help.... |
Alex Kleon wrote: I've used EnduroVar for 5-6 kitchens, so far. I'll give it a try for guitar finish if I can get a break from cabinetry this winter. I'll be picking your brain for satin spraying, Colin! Alex If you can find them, you're welcome! |
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